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1. The font is too small, too dark, or so crowded I can’t freaking read it.

2. Spelling “hee hee” as “hehe”.  “He” is a pronoun; “hee” and “heh” are bits of laughter; so are “ho”, “ha", and “mwa”.  I cannot read “hehe” as anything but two pronouns stuttering.  Edit: And you know what?  Finnish and all those other languages that do it AREN'T ENGLISH.

3. The comics are too dark to tell what’s going on.  Whether because this person’s working screen is too dark, or because they think it’ll add to their comic’s feel of “dark mystery,” I can’t say.

4. Inconsistent narration.  Figure it the freak out before you start investing your time!  Research POV in comics and why they’re important.  I hate it when one page reads in First Person and then switches to some omniscient narrator that we never meet and don’t know where the hell they came from. (Double points if it's the hero narrating his OWN BIRTH.  That's right, I'm looking at YOU, wolf comic people!)

5.  Unreadable font styles.  You know who’s your friend?  Anyone but that Bleeding God emo script done by an amateur graphic designer that you thought looked cool.

6. Inconsistent font.  The font style changes, or the color does, or the color of the speech bubbles does, because it’s not well-designed enough to handle scenes at night and during the day.

7. Word bubbles the crowd each other and every character on the page.  This is what storyboarding is for, people, so you can treat the speech bubbles as the compositional element it is!  You don’t draw a panel and then hope that lecture you have to convey is gonna fit in there.  And making speech bubbles transparent doesn’t make them not eclipse a face, a character, or an action!

8.  The knock-off styles that “aren’t” knock-offs.  It’s one thing to draw a comic in the Lion King style.  It is something else entirely to draw it in the Lion King style and say “I don’t draw like Lion King anymore!”  Or Spirit, Balto, or Blackblood Alliance.  If the average soccer mom can’t tell the difference between your work and the work of Disney/Dreamworks/Amblin, you draw in that style, mister/miss denialism.  That is your measuring stick.  I don’t make the rules of artistic education among middle-class suburbia, so deal with it.

9.  People who don’t know what punctuation is.  Especially commas.  Did you know that when a character says “Er” in hesitation, a comma is supposed to follow that?  No?  I bet you don’t know how many periods are in an ellipses, either.

10.  People who get tired of drawing so their pacing screws up.  They cram a bunch of stuff into one page, or even one panel, so they don’t have to redraw anything.  And then in the artist’s comments they bitch about how much they hate this page.  I have two responses to that: 1) Why are you doing a comic if you didn’t want to draw? And 2) If you’d storyboarded in the first place you wouldn’t have had to problem solve on your final, would you?

11. Characters without speech bubbles.  Do you know what this reads like when a whole bunch of single sentences are stuck right below each other?  A conversation in a fast-forwarded chipmunk voice.

12. Dialogue that doesn’t flow in a visual way.  I hate it when I get an answer to a question I haven’t even seen a character ask.  And then oh wait!  There’s the question!  But I read it backwards, because your dialogue flows wrong and you just forgot or didn’t care.  Do you know that master comic artists regard a page as an entire piece by itself?  Providing visual cues for the eye to move to the next panel and next action in order, whether dialogue is there or not?  You didn’t?  Why are you doing comics without doing your research, then?

13.  Comics that read right to left in the “manga style.”  You know who’s allowed to do this?  The Japanese.  The Chinese.  In fact, anyone from the Eastern world whose culture dictates that’s how you read, or that’s how you’ve been taught to read since preschool.  You know who doesn’t read this way?  The Western world.  So if you’re not a professional manga artist yet, knock it off.  No one is impressed with your Wapanese kawaii-desu posing, and I bet even the real Japanese would say the same thing.  I also hate seeing disclaimers that say “Read left to right!”  DUH. That’s how I’m going to read by default, because I DON’T LIVE IN JAPAN.  You know those mangas you read? THEY WERE DRAWN IN JAPAN.  Know why you read them right to left? BECAUSE THEY WERE DRAWN IN JAPAN.  

14. Thinking that your art justifies any plot hole.  Or lack of plot.  Or lack of coherent explanation on your part.  Or fridge logic.  Or the artist's comments that explain everything that's happening because the page itself isn't capable of doing that on its own. If not bothering to tell a story, why are you  drawing a comic?  You know, sequential visual STORYTELLING.

15.  Horrible grammar.  You’re excused if English is your second language.  If not, figure out how to type a sentence properly.  You learn that in English class, not through chatspeak. Characters with “WTF!?” and “growlplzkthx” as their reactions and sound effects will have me, in a sense, rotflmao.

16. Overuse of the Dodge and Burn tool.  Instant light and shadow is not Dodge and Burn. Dodge and Burn are instant white dust and instant black, ashy smudges, respectively.

17.  Regarding any and all criticism as invalid by its very nature.  Believe it or not, the people that tell you your anatomy needs work or your characters are wall-eyed have a point.  You can either admit your mistake and try and fix it, or keep typing up those bleeding heart blogs about how everyone hates you.  One way leads to being a professional artist.  I’ll give you two guesses, and the first doesn’t count.

18.  Wanting to do things “your way” instead of the professional way.  Yeah, there are standards.  I know you think that since comics are “lowbrow” art that means you can do whatever you want, but that’s just not true.  If you disobey the generally accepted rules of visual storytelling, be prepared to get some flak for it.  Expecting otherwise is like saying you’re allowed to kick a field goal in basketball.  Even if you’re doing art for fun, it’s like offering an opinion on the Internet: everyone’s gonna take aim whether you want them to or not. You have to learn the rules before you’re allowed to break them.

19. Refusing to educate yourself for fear of failure.  “I think I’m doing things wrong anyway, so I don’t want to know if I am.” “My poor self-ego is fragile enough without all you haters and nitpickers!”  “I don’t like being told what to do!  It’s my art!”  Somebody call the whaaaambulance, because most ignorance is willful!

20.  Drawing from anime instead of drawing from life.  I’ve said it before, and I”ll say it again: anime is a simplified set of drawing motifs.  Real artists develop their style by drawing from life.  I don’t care that you can draw the most sensual yaoi Sephiroth evar if you can’t draw me that dog over there, or those pots over there.  You do not draw good anime by drawing anime; you draw good anime by drawing from life.  Trust me on this.
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SLS-ScifiandArt Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2014  Hobbyist
I have to fully agree with most of these, especially number 13. After looking around in book fairs in my school as a kid, I have never seen published Manga by westerners written in right to left.  The majority of them tend to be left to right.  I'm surprised number 15 exists to that extreme. Have seen a fair share of issue number 14 being a problem in few of the manga/comics I have read. By few of the mangas, I mean ones with a decent, semirealistic style not the shojo moe with the giant eyes up to their forehead and heads two times bigger than their body. Issue number 16? Why would anyone ever use those tools for digital drawing in any nature? Issue number 10 makes no sense in regards to the comic artist. 

You were on point. I'll be looking into those when I improve on my drawing and writing skills.
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QweXTheXEccentric Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
You person! I just want to thank you for making this and you are absolutely X1000 right on this. Especially on the part of drawing manga in the west. I am a manga purist; I will refuse to read any 'manga' that was created in America, I just rename them as a graphic novel because they are not japanese nor they made it from there. You are wonderful.
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Bunni89 Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
o.o "Hehe" is not "hee hee"
I've.. never even imagined anyone could read it that way. It's meant to be like two syllables of "heh" quickly, like a sort of dry laugh under your breath. Exactly the opposite of "hee hee" :XD:
Sort of the kind of laugh you might imagine in the context of "Hehe, so you think you've won?" Suitable for sarcastic, smug, stoic and any other situation where someone is laughing in a not very friendly way. Most laughter is inherantly jovial and it's hard to add the nuance of a situation where it has more meaning to it.. unless you use "hehe".
I'm starting to think this is probably some sort of dialect difference, since this is always how I've understood "hehe" to be used from my experience as a British citizen..
(sorry for the criticism, this is just the only point I disagreed with)
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Sio64 Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2011  Professional Artist
You should post this in the comics and books forum =D

It's certainly a useful checklist! I think the earliest pages of my comic fall afoul of a few of these, whoops. :x

But then the whole thing is a massive learning process anyway =D Thanks for this list!
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godeyes Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
lol i remember when i used to think like this (except for 17 and 19 i still dont understand why people cant take criticism when its helping them) lawl i wanna go back in time and shake myself sometimes :iconhurrplz:
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A-VeyZ Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2011  Student Digital Artist
This made me laugh.

But I love this. It shows me what to watch out for when I make a comic. Thanks for putting these up.
Bookmarked.
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akeli Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2011   General Artist
This times a thousand.

The word bubble one gets to me the most. Why do people love insane amounts of transparency on their bubbles? Do you -not- want me to be able to read your comic? Aghh. Worse is when the lettering begins right on top of the edge of the bubble.

I once re-lettered one of my pages with everything that makes a comic tacky. I only showed it to a friend, but perhaps it's time to upload it.
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Droemar Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2011
As my sarcasm and anger proves, you can sometimes teach people more by showing what they did wrong than what they did right.
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FablePaint Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2011  Professional Filmographer
21. Coloring characters in afternoon lighting when the scene takes place at night.
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Droemar Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2011
Dare 1 do Top 20 Most Annoying Artwork?
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FablePaint Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2011  Professional Filmographer
Perhaps :D Include in that sucky tutorials maybe? Or would that be a different subject?
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Droemar Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2011
I'll leave that to you. I had my say on sucky tutorials when I did my scales tutorial.
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FablePaint Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2011  Professional Filmographer
But it wasn't in convenient listed format
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melladh Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2011
Mind you, if you're going to be harsh about 1, "hee hee" isn't part of the dictionary either. It's "ha ha" or "tee hee".
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3v1l73ddy Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2011  Student General Artist
You are now my new hero because of this. Just kidding but I agree with so much of what you're saying in this. The only thing is that I'm currently drawing a manga-style comic and I'm drawing it in the right-to-left reading format. I was even going to put Japanese onomatopoeia into it because I have a goal to one day write an entirely Japanese manga but my sister pointed out that since the rest of it is English the SFX should be too. I was wondering if my manga would go on your hate pile because of this.
Also, I've been meaning to improve my drawing skills by moving up to life drawing, do you know of any books that would be good to get me started? Or should I just go for it without books?
Thanks~
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Droemar Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2011
My Lebanese friend summed up why right-to-left is a bad idea better than I can: [link]
Anything my Jack Hamm, Bridgeman, or Loomis are good drawing books. Aside from going to a life drawing class.
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3v1l73ddy Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2011  Student General Artist
Ok, Thanks. I still don't agree about the right-to-left thing, I'm probably gonna rant why in my journal now, but we're all entitled to our opinions. You have some interesting points, but nothing really hardcore and persuasive. The only point I can think of that comes close is that the writing itself contradicts the page order and ruins the design, but this isn't that hard to get used to. Flipping the pages in a real manga screws with the pictures and ruins what the artist originally designed the characters and page to look like. As for those in the western culture, like me, who choose to write the comic as right-to-left we do this to follow tradition of the manga style, to practice for the future or to see another side of design. We don't write our comics for people who follow western comic books religiously, we write them for people who read manga. Also your other point was that if you have to tell us which way to read then you've already failed. The problem is that we would have to anyway because of our art style, people would be confused, especially if they read manga, and we'd have to clear it up for them.
In short there are many reasons to justify right-to-left comics and if you can't see or except that then this comment was a waste of time, but I havn't even scratched the surface. Even so, I know that there are a lot of idiots that defile our good intentions and you do have a right as a westerner to think reading the other way is stupid. I understand, but please take some time to think as if you had my view after reading this comment and try to see that it's not always a sin.
Again thank you.
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Aen-Riv Featured By Owner Jun 13, 2011
Amazing, considering there are so many tutorials and books on how to do it right.
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Murasaki99 Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2011  Student Traditional Artist
Everyone should read "Bob the Angry Flower" and his "Quick Guide to the Apostrophe, You Idiots". [link]
As a technical writer and editor of other people's stuff, it gave me a good laugh.

That said, we need to let people play -- I groan over my old mistakes and I know I'll groan over my new ones. But I do learn from them and I'm sure the enthusiastic younger folks coming up will do the same if they maintain their interest in the comic/manga art form. :)

Thank you for the referral to :iconcedarseed:'s tutorials. There are very good tutorials for comics throughout DA for anyone willing to search a little.
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qorter Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2011
This is, by far, my favorite journal that you've ever posted. As soon as they allow us to favorite journals, this will be the first that I find. Thank you for calling out the people who do this crap. (I'm not saying I don't do some of this, but at least I've learned and fixed it and moved past it.)

I agree that storyboarding (as time consuming as it CAN be) saves a freaking buttload of time later on, and it helps with flow so it's all smooth. Smooth flow. JEEZ. I mean, seriously people, these are mistakes I made when I was 12, not 17. If you're 20 and making a comic, you should know better. Haven't people ever considered reading a book? Heck, even a how-to book works, right? I'm sure they could find at least ONE helpful pointer. I know I did.
I mean, I used to just draw comics, but then they'd end up getting lost in translation because I didn't plan ahead. Once I started storyboarding, everything went by so much easier. It's a necessary step that everyone seems to skip.

Americans shouldn't make manga. Draw in the style, but make it your own, not these sparkly-eyed, shoujo, retard, inconsistent, hyperactive, cheerleader characters that have no real point in the story. ONE character like this is okay, but every character is a freaking no-no.

Grammar rant = epic win

Not sure that I agree about the "hee hee" vs. "hehe" thing because accepted things tend to change. It's like "until" going to "'til" vs. "till." "I'm going to go till I want to come back." "Oh, you're going to till the wheat?" "No, UNTIL I want to come back." "Riiight…."

So, that was long. The end?
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ElementalSpirits Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I think I'm only guilty of the second one, and for that I claim Dyslexia. Trying to work out how to spell sounds in a pain in the butt for me, so mostly I look up and copy what other people are doing. I guess other people are wrong. ^^; Hence forth I promise to spell my hehe's as heehee. =D
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NavanaThePheonix Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
That was very helpful stuff. I would like to thank you for this journal. ^-^' I was actaully making a lot of these mistakes and i'm really trying to improve. So again thank you ^^
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PilafiaMadness Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2011  Student General Artist
.. You have no idea how amazing you are right now, just for making this journal lol.
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Lit-Twitter Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2011
Ha ha, snarkily funny as always. It's been twittered: [link] :)
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Rasgonras Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2011
I don't understand that "hee hee" thing (probably because I'm german) but regarding all the rest:
THAT IS SO TRUE, everybody who does not follow these rules should receive buttsechs in response! :#1:
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StormofThunder Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2011
This list.

Just...yes.

I remember commenting about reading right-to-left on a comic collaboration that was right-to-left, and that shit even got a fucking DD (not like it means shit anymore), and both of them excused it saying that because the style was inspired by and similar to anime, they thought it was "logical" and they had "artistic freedom" to make it right-to-left. They excused it on "personal preference".

Bullshit, that's what. The comic was even going to be sold. Just...no words. :facepalm:
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Elixia-Dragmire Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
oh wow! ....

yeah, i'm er a culprit of a few of ... those. *cough* I can vouch that the dark screen one is due to poor screen calibrations! my latest page feel victim to it. needs poking once I figure out a clever way to correct visually.

i suffer from poor grammar, i cant see mistakes i make since my mind will correct them for me when i read over them. i have to leave and come back clear headed.

Word panelling is tough is you've not planned correctly, took me 2 years to start figuring that one out.

anyway, mines a learning process. it was always intended as such. still so much to learn! (kind of excites me)
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Fyrrea Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Can you recommend some GOOD comics on dA and some bad to comparision? :)
(I have an idea for a comic... maybe in a few years when i'll be better with drawing i'll start making it :D)
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Droemar Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2011
Oh, hell. And `Cedarseed 's Malaak, Angel of Peace on the Good list.
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Droemar Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2011
Good - Wurr by WolfPearl, Guardians by Akeli.
Bad - I'm not looking to smash anyone down, but Sealed Hearts and Heartless are both prime examples of good/decent art getting crippled by lack of story-boarding and a story script. They really just about make every mistake on the list; no protagonist named, narrator out of nowhere, etc.
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Sharpfang Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2011
Slowdown. Most webcomics that go on for a couple of years seem to lose all the impact of the early days. While year 1 or 2 could push 2-3 large, deep story arcs a year, with rapid and rich story progression, year 6 will not cover one (moderate size) story arc whole. (damn you TwoKinds!)

Character creep. As time progresses new characters are introduced. Each given their lines, their "air time" and as result you lose track of who is who. And as every of a dozen character threads is pushed a notch ahead, the whole story progression grinds to a halt resulting in slowdown. (DMFA, Girl Genius).

Hiatus/Fillers/Specials. If I get 3 months of specials/extras/fillers I start getting pissed off. I understand the artist needs to take a break now and then, but goddamnit, LIMIT THIS!
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Elixia-Dragmire Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
on hiatus I hear your pain but from a creator POV if you cant pull the strength to draw and put love in the work, there's no point. It'll read poorly because the creator didn't care.
on average an art burnout will last 2-3 months.

still it should kept to a minimum, pacing yourself helps :)
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Sharpfang Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2011
I think part of the burnout is that the author can see the story going nowhere, slowly. Slowdown hurts both readers and the author.
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Elixia-Dragmire Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
True but were all only human at end of the day. the best thing is pacing oneself and knowing your limits. I find burnouts can happened if you overload yourself or if you don't plan properly
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Deathcomes4u Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2011  Professional General Artist
I'm not sure most of the people making these mistakes have any idea what a storyboard IS.
Mind you i knew what they were when i started mine, but not so much about good lettering. It was done by hand in straight pen, but all the same :XD: I am a lazy artist. That graphic novel was more a hobby than anything serious. I'd use what i've done of it as a storyboard if I wanted to produce it properly.
My graphic visualisation class has done wonders for my storyboarding.
And more of these people need to know about the 180 degree rule. Some of those people's scene changes get confusing as hell.

Ugh, please excuse my shitty sentance structure in this comment, long day of wrangling Maya and Final Cut has broken my braaaaain >.<
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Droemar Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2011
I doubt people know what a script is, either. Based on some of the writing and stuff I've seen, I wonder if people even bother with a text file, of if they just have it in their head that "this is what's gonna happen next."
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Deathcomes4u Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2011  Professional General Artist
Hurrr that's how I write, but generally because dialogue tends to stick in my head well. But then, i don't have any delusions of granduer, I know my stuff isn't publishable as it is.
But deffinately for a proper one, scripting is something I couldn't do without. Hell i can't even make photographic fan comics with my transformers if I don't script.
I always specialised more in storyboarding anyway. I'm good with visualising and putting down motion sequences, but trying to make things pretty and neat and polished has never been my forte'.
Oh god and lettering. I fail hardcore at that.
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Droemar Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2011
My brother has done some webcomics like that with his Legos and stuff. I really that liek that format for some reason ... photos and comic bubbles is just cool.
I suck at lettering as well. My handwriting is awful.
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Deathcomes4u Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2011  Professional General Artist
"XD" well, at least knowing the rules before breaking them is OK when there's a good reason for breaking them X3
Lawd, i just entered one of my photocomics in a contest held by Starhorse (who makes THE most beautifully shot comics I have ever seen with her Transformers), and i've gone all hyper-critical about the shots in mine :XD:
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lbawtw Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2011
I always pronounce "hehe" as "heh'heh'", and that's how everyone over here that I'm aware of does :shrug: Meh.
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Wind-Kitty Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Quite a nifty and useful guide; this should be published and sold.
This could be very useful for a huge number of people, including myself. Thanks for writing! :)
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Majnouna Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2011  Professional General Artist
I should add to my comment: I'm a native French and Arabic speaker. It is a complete breeze for me to switch from left-to-right reading to right-to-left reading, and the question of how to work with two scripts going in opposite directions is a constant theme in all areas of my work, so my hatred of ass-backward comics has nothing to do with "not being used to" another reading direction. It's. Just. Unjustifiable. Unless you only want to be read by people like you. If you have to explain to people how to read a comic before starting (which is risible, because cognition doesn't work that way), you have already failed. And again, the text will run in one direction and the page flow in another, and it doesn't take a degree in literature and design to see this is inept for no good reason at all.
Good manga re-publishers flip the damn book. Those who don't are just saving money and banking on the public's apparently idiocy-inducing addiction. If we translated comics into Arabic and kept the "original Western format", reader reaction would be "What's wrong with you morons, can't you put the pages in the correct order?"
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Droemar Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2011
Yes! See, I knew you'd understand, because you know your friggin' market! You're also marketing on your own, and you know that anything that alienates a reader is a copy that doesn't sell.
But you're all professional and whatnot; most of the people that do it probably don't have a chance in hell of getting published or having semi-decent book sales. That darn most ignorance is willful rule.
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Majnouna Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2011  Professional General Artist
As I see it, the problem lies well before we even reach the market part. The elementary rule of comics: a page should read effortlessly. Any snags in the reading flow take the reader's mind off the story. If the reader needs to learn how to read a page and to keep focusing on how to read it, the reader is not immersed in the story and will soon get very annoyed. If the direction makes no sense to me I don't even go beyond the first page, why should I? Of all the pathetic ways of slavishly imitating a given style, this is the most glaring illustration of how people get hung up on the most meaningless, superficial aspects. UGH!!
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wandering-ronin Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2011
This is why DA needs to allow people to fav journals.
Seriously, I am bookmarking this page.
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Majnouna Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2011  Professional General Artist
Right-to-left comics are fucking retarded, they piss me off so much. If your text reads in one direction and your page reads in another, YOU FAIL. PERIOD. NO IFS OR BUTS.
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Droemar Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2011
LOL! You posted twice you were so mad!
U mad Cedarseed? ;)
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Majnouna Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2011  Professional General Artist
Yes I was! :XD: Damn kids bypassing all common sense :shakefist:
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RedVioletPanda Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2011   Digital Artist
I have found examples of #13 done well, to a point, simply because the person doing them had a better understanding of the format than the people who try to do so so they can "copy" anime, which it's technically manga (sigh). What irritates me more rather is when people go berserk over over their stuff being called manga rather than anime, especially when they're doing a COMIC format story. Get your terms right, folks!

The other thing that I find that's often buggy is consistant style, as well as continuity. I've been doing a comic for a while, and I've noticed I did a few flubs in the first pages, which will be fixed with Photoshop (conversion into digital format, since I find it easier than scanning and trying to fix from a scanned sketchbook, since for some reason they never scan straight!), as well as a short comic based off of an original story of mine. The best way to remedy that is to use a style you are familiar with, or your own. As for me, I've never really been the one to copy styles outside of a few obsurce sources (I mean underrated and obscure). Even then I have to put myself to outlining the story before I actually create the comic in general. It may not be easy, but it's harder than heck to make a comic without a clear story in mind.

Again to spelling and grammer; I actually have some trouble with spelling, but even I have to look up a word. It's better to have a spellcheck, or better yet, try doing the impossible and do a wordless comic. There's quite a few out there.

The last would be bloody narration. This is probably why I dislike most American comics, because there's so much in the way out of overly purple prose in little bubbles that distract you. It's always better when you have emotion driving the comic, but even then there's a bunch of stupid artists out there who can't friggin' draw expressions without having them look like... something else (I'm looking at you, Rob Liefeld!). Dear lord, this is probably the reason why the only American comics I have ever enjoyed were The Watchmen, Bone, and Mouse Guard, and why I've been an avid reader of manga throughout high school.

On a last, last note, have you thought about making a comic's tutorial on DA? There's not much here in the way of comic resources as far as I can see (even less on some other stuff, like how to draw panels).
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Droemar Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2011
Everybody hates Rob Liefeld.Even Rob Liefeld.
You gouht to head over to `Cedarseed 's page, she has loads of comic resources and tutorials, and she's part of a DA group that is a comic resource place. She'd be way better at a tutorial than I would.
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