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Raptor Tutorial by Droemar Raptor Tutorial by Droemar
Meh, I'm just not a polisher. That's my problem. It's why The Pact's laborious inking and washing process is driving me crazy. It hasn't diminished my enthusiasm for dinosaurs, though!

I did this to resist taking a nap after me ma and I did some serious spring cleaning around my house. This is as much for my reference as it is everyone else's; I break half these rules most of the time. I mean, I grew up drawing raptors like Talon from Primal Rage and the Jurassic Park raptors, who had some serious anatomical mistakes. When I was little, I drew raptors with just the feathers on their heads, like Talon (boy, was I a fan of Talon), so a lot of the feather stuff has been quite a hurdle to overcome.

I really wish I could've had a single, beautiful, unbroken line of comic pages, but I couldn't take the pressure. My artistic aesthetic needed to breathe free! Expect about a page a week from now on.
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JonaGold2000 Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
One thing you unfortunately dont point out is how the wingfeathers connect to the scond finger
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Stegoraptor Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Very nice and I like how you explained everything
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RMusic14 Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks for the very very veeery helpfull tutorial!!! :icondragonhug:
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Sky-Lily Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Ahhh, very helpful!
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FazbearClaim Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2013  Professional Writer
Cool!
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MistingWolf Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I would like to understand the physical structure of this animal, so I can try to draw it correctly in my future attempts.

Why is the back leg limited? I see a lot of tutorials where it cannot go backward past 90 degrees. Is there some kind of muscle limitation there that won't let it extend further?

How far can the wrist twist? I saw you said "not very much" but how much is that?

I also noticed that usually the smaller the raptor the more feathery it gets. I'm drawing Utahraptor, and I'm not sure about the larger species.

Are there any good places to look specifically for this or more information?
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Droemar Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2013
You'd need to do reading on raptors in scientific articles for the specifics. The 90 degree rule is because the animal's hip would dislocate if the femur reached past that angle.
The wrist has a moon-shaped carpal in it (the lumen) that limits the rotating ability of the wrist. It is the mechanism that eventually evolved into a wing. Birds don't rotate the edge of their outspread ring; their rotation is in the shoulder, and raptors operated under similar rules.
Smaller raptors eventually evolved into birds, because their feather evolution and small size lended itself to flight and wing-assisted incline running.
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MistingWolf Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Ah, all right! Great, thanks so much for taking the time to answer my questions. I'll try to look for credible information on the net for further insight. :}
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Werociraptor Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2013
Ok, not too much feathers... Not bad
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Sniper0092 Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks helper.
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Sabhira Featured By Owner May 12, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Lovely tutorial! What species is depicted here?
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bored-beyond-belief Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Nice tutorial, and very informative! (^_^)b
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warimuslim Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2012  Student Digital Artist
thanks dude.. its very useful for my study..
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dragonmaster861995 Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Nice, but until someone can show me a real live raptor that is fully feathered, I will still believe they only had the few (like Talon)
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Droemar Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2012
Yes, because scientific fact is based on belief. Wouldn't want to look at the confirmation of feathers in fossils like Velociraptor, Microraptor, Acheopteryx, and Confuciusornis, the former two of which fall under the Droemasauridae "raptor" eponym and the latter two of which are transitional fossils instrumental to the relationship between archosaurs and birds.
No, no, your vague opinions based on a mid 90s video game are far more well-informed.
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dragonmaster861995 Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
You took that way to seriously...
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horsesRcool22 Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
This is a very helpful tutorial. Very nice.
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ExtraordinaryEffect Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2012  Student Artist
will help with future work involving raptors and other saurian life
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Yuriakashu Featured By Owner May 26, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Beautiful reference here. : ) :+fav: (and printing for continued reference XD )!
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Mottenfest Featured By Owner May 7, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I love this tutorial! Do you have it posted somewhere where it is larger? It's difficult for me to read on my screen. D:
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Ja-Kitsu-Ryou Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Great tutorial! I love drawing dragons, and knowing about dinosaurs and other existing reptiles is essential to drawing a good dragon. Also, dinosaurs are just incredibly fun and wacky critters. :D I have a particular respect for the raptors though, so much cunning power without the brute force of a Tyrannosaurus. :D
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Tyrannosaur17 Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
The rule that says "don't turn back the femur more than 90 degrees" doesn't make any kind of sense in Dromaeosaurs, of all creatures. They need powerful and agile legs that give balance when the animal is moving. How does it help if the femur has such a limited range of motion? Scott Hartman's skeletal reconstructions show some raptors (particularly Bambiraptor and Utahraptor) with a femur turned slightly past the 90 degree mark, and that's for reconstructions that show the animal in a "trotting" phase, not a running one.
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Droemar Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2011
Oh, wow, you know, I went looking for this raptor tutorial of yours that was infinitely better than mine, but I couldn't find it! Shit!
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Tyrannosaur17 Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
But I'll take that as a challenge. If I get anything wrong when I post the tutorial, feel free to do so.
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Droemar Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2011
I thought you said were gonna leave. What, will having the last word let you win at the Internet or something?
Your comment doesn't make you right by inherent virtue, and "technical flaw" is, to say the least, putting things charitably. I looked up your Scott Hartman fellow, and his drawings obey the 90 degree rule. If the femur moved backwards (not forwards) any further than 90 degrees, it would dislocate.
But why am I even bothering to point this out to you? You're just going to bitch more. Remorse, remorse, I am so very, very wrong. Please, put together your tutorial and point out to everyone how wrong and mean I am.
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draalrog Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2012
you know what, this should not be a fight. You are being ridiculous fighting of what raptors were. People have their opinions on what they could be. Its not your way of the high way because we only know so little about these creatures and personally, the 90 degree angle movement makes little sense to me, but that is only my opinion
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Droemar Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2012
Hey, thanks for white-knighting on an argument that ended ... what ... a year ago? There's a difference between opinion and informed opinion. YOU might not know a lot about these creatures, but I can assure you the paleontologists that study them and publish papers about them have conclusive knowledge. One of which is that the hipbone moving back farther than 90 degrees would have dislocated the animal's femur.
The Dunning-Kruger effect should not get to dictate what is fact and what isn't. Your "opinion" has no bearing on scientific truth. I'm sorry if its hard to process, but it's not my job to fix willful ignorance.
Read a book on maniraptors/droemaesaurs.
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draalrog Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2012
I am pretty sure this is why that argument started....but i think its the way you say things that make people mad. i know quite a bit about dinosaurs...but not everything...no one does...but your knowledge is leading yourself into the pit of being an arrogant snob. You can be nice about things. But nice art work by the way
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Tyrannosaur17 Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
This time, I spoke up for the sake of scientific accuracy. Didn't know this would get under your skin, too. But I'm always ignorable, in any case. Fine, I'll just shut up.
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Tyrannosaur17 Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
You certainly seem to think getting the last word is important. It's happened every time we've argued. It's difficult to leave anything alone when the closest thing I get to an answer or acknowledgement is a childish, sarcastic retort that has nothing to do with the conversation.
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Tyrannosaur17 Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I pointed out a technical flaw, Droemar. Getting sarcastic about it doesn't make you right. (By the way, I wasn't "scavenging" for excuses to criticize you - this flaw bothered me for a while, so I decided to say something about it)
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kmathel94 Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2011  Hobbyist
This will probably come in handy!!!
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SketchySG Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2011
This tutorial reminds me of how the raptors in Jurassic Park had a lot of snake qualities in their design:

Their irises were slanted, instead of round like a bird
They had a head vaguely shaped like an anaconda's. RL velociraptor's head had a narrower snout I think.
and their teeth were curved like fangs, with lips instead of an overbite like RL therapods.

Neat additions to make a scary movie villain, but a surprising contrast to the bird dinos of real life.
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Stegoraptor Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
That is so true. Didn't realize how similar they were. Nice point man
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stickyman45 Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2011
Great tutorial, dude! I just wanted to point out one thing: recent studies concluded that raptors were most likely nocturnal, not diurnal.
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Demon-Child-13 Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2011
I wish I had found this like, a day earlier. XD It would have come in handy with my first raptor drawing.
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DrForrester87 Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2011  Student General Artist
YES! someone who doesn't have the Raptor's palms facing the chest like Jurassic Park!
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AlexRaccoonGlider Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
This will definately come into great use! Thanks for sharing!
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Devinital Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2011  Hobbyist Artist
Thanks for this tutorial.
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asadama Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2011  Student Digital Artist
Helped me a lot! Thanks! :D
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Din0scarex Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2011
this is helpful
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Albertonykus Featured By Owner May 2, 2011
Interestingly, the size and shape of the scleral ring in several dromaeosaurids suggest they were nocturnal or crepuscular.
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Arbiter10123 Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2011  Student General Artist
The tails did act as balencing rods but, the tail RARELY moved.Over all VERY well done, i`m both impressed and jealious...
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Exoe Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2011
Ahh they're so cute <3
I love the faces

XD
Once again I get distracted by something I like rather than what I was actually looking for
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verybluebird Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2011  Hobbyist Photographer
Very nice tutorial and so informative. Thank you!
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Cakefortwo Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2010
*insert girly squeal here* you have NO idea how long i've been looking for raptor stock/tutorials O.O you have made my day good sir/madam! <3
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Dongiovar Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2010
Hooray for a most awesome and wonderful reference! While the raptors that i would be drawing for novels and such are not as "politically correct", shall we say, as real ones, as they have evolved for longer, this is still great stuff to know, and should be helpful with my sucky drawing skills. You are my hero for the day Droemar :heart:
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GojiraFan96 Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2010
thanks, this is very helpful.
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Blairaptor Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2010  Student Digital Artist
Thank you so much! I didn't know that thing about the leg until just now!

This'll be helpful in my animated series; I've got a velociraptor character there.
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RedZeroFive1 Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2010
Epic win! I have to say, this is UBER helpfull!
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